I never said Jaguar was a fix. I said that 10.1 was not the greatest. Compare it to the auto industry. The first year run of a new model line is generally plagued with lots of design problems that are fixed in the second and third year. Do you expect Ford or GM to trade even for a redesigned model? They fix the problems that are deemed dangerous. That's it. I think there should have been an upgrade price, but I'm not going to beat my chest over $30 or $40. It's still far better than anything out of Microsnot. And yes, I do work with Windoze at the office. It makes me appreciate what we have with Apple. On Monday, January 13, 2003, at 05:46 PM, Gerhard Kuhn wrote: > And then they have the nerve to charge for the Jaguar "upgrade" when > in reality it is a fix! > On Monday, January 13, 2003, at 05:38 PM, Phyllis Evans wrote: > >> Just my little 2¢ worth on the subject. Apple had to stop developing >> for OS 9 sometime. Jaguar is the most stable upgrade that I can >> remember in years, and I go back to 6.whatever (I think it was 6.7) >> when the multifinder was introduced. As long as they keep developing >> OS 9, other software companies will drag their feet on the move to OS >> X. My primary word processor is Nisus because of the glossary >> feature, and if they don't release at least a beta VERY soon, they've >> lost me as a customer. That and my LabelWriter software are the only >> things I run in Classic. If companies think that we will continue to >> run OS 9 or Classic, they have no incentive to get off their behinds >> and develop for OS X. How long should a company continue to support >> an old system? It takes a lot of extra work to make the current >> machines run in OS 9, and that translates into extra money that could >> be going into R & D for future systems. >> >> I agree that 10.1 was not a great system, and while I played with it, >> I didn't make the move to 10 until the release of Jaguar. Since >> making the move, I've never looked back. Yes, I had to limber up the >> gray matter and learn a few new things, but it was worth it. It's >> time to move on. If you're happy with OS 9, then use it, but don't >> criticize Apple for lighting a fire under the developers out there to >> get with it. If Adobe can do it, so can others.