Since upgrading to X, my ATI XClaim card is now impotent :-( Ahh the price of progress). I still use it for a 2nd monitor but my real use was to import analogue video in BOTH NTSC AND PAL, the TV feature was kinda cool though. I know, times have changed, if I want to import NTSC I can just pass it through my DV camcorder but I still have a need for PAL (parents in UK, young child etc... etc..). Does anyone have any input on which of the following work or any other options, obviously if I am going to shell out $200-400 in hardware, some advantages over just the 'pass through' option would make me feel better justified. I also need (occasionally) to import/convert audio only through a small mixer board. My current setup is Jaguar on a G4/400 sawtooth which has a Mic jack so this is more of a required option if I upgrade. I have stayed away from the USB (cheap options) because I assume quality is going to be an issue (I just ordered a DVD burner). I have looked at the following but not in great detail, if your are a user and/or can offer advice, I would appreciate hearing it on/off list is fine. Canopus ADVC-50 @$200 PAL&NTSC, DV in/out, analogue in (Out?) S video, composite (Out?) audio locked. internal and external mounting. ADS Pyro A/V link @ $250 Seems to be similar spec as above but in external only box Syncrotech DAC-100 @ $275 Canopus ADVC-100 @$300 Seems like the pro/sumer version of the 50 but an external only box Formac studio DVTV @ $400 This is the only one I found with a TV tuner option, but is also the most expensive, the non TV is $289. Specs seem comparable with the other models mentioned ? I know I have missed a couple, the sony DVMC-DA2 is NTSC only, the Dazzle DV bridge? well feels/looks kinda 'Chintzy'? What do You think? Is an external box on the desktop with easy access to cables the way to go? The Formac looks cool, which is the best bang for the buck? The Canopus with locked audio? I Dunno :-) Simon Briggs