In the OfficeMax rebate catalog there are rebates for both models until 1.25.03. So the 105 is a net $220 ($50 off the regular price of $270). I don't know about the instant part. Sean may be right about that part. 105 box has Gold and Maroon Art. The words Internal, Recorder, DVD-R/RW, 4x DVD Burning, Capture, Burn, Watch, Share are all in Maroon (dark RED). The words CenDyne and DVD are in Gold. the "Internal 4x IDE DVD-R/RW Drive for PC (model# CDICD00209)" is the last item on the coupon. At the bottom of the list. The 2x 104 $50 rebate is at the top of the list of items on the same coupon: "Internal IDE DVD-R-RW Drive (Model# CDICD00106)" > DVR-104: Cendyne # CDICD00106, Officemax # 20146496 > DVR-105: Cendyne # CDICD00209, Officemax # I don't know their number > either k On Sunday, January 19, 2003, at 06:47 AM, Sean Collins wrote: > WARNING! > >> The OfficeMax flyer for this coming week lists the CenDyne unit for >> $179.99 >> after rebate. Can't tell from the ad if it is the pioneer 104 or 105. > > Intentionally or not, OfficeMax is MISLABELING their Cendyne DVD-R > drives. I was in OfficeMax Friday, and noticed that their shelf label > advertises the older DVR-104 model as a 4x drive!! > > They have BOTH 104 and 105 drives on the shelf, but the $50 in-store > discount ONLY applies to the 104. My guess is that the above price > will only apply to the 104. (adding Cendyne $50 rebate nets you to > $179.99) > > So don't bee fooled by their shelf labeling. Before you buy, make > sure of the actual model by looking at the box. The specification on > the back of the box clearly shows the model number at the bottom of > the list: DVR-104 or DVR-105. The 104 box has blue graphics, the 105 > has gold. > > DVR-104: Cendyne # CDICD00106, Officemax # 20146496 > DVR-105: Cendyne # CDICD00209, Officemax # ?????