Chad is it your contention that shoplifting is fine but when you steal in larger quantities it becomes a crime or somehow depraved? For a self-righteous sort as yourself I would have assumed that you know that fair use is to provide the purchaser with the opportunity to use their music in various forms for their O W N use not for sharing with buddies, there is no distinction between formats sharing is verboten - no cassettes, no mp3s or what ever your file preference is nor is are a small number of infractions considered acceptable. Gerhard Kuhn suspice at hay.net Chad wrote That was me and my friends throughout the 70s, for sure. We used cassette "samplers" of songs to spread the word about artists we liked. Had it stayed at that level, music "sharing" probably would have gotten "looked the other way" by the record companies. But it didn't, so frankly the pirates really don't have anyone to blame but themselves.