You know we (as list members) seem to have this every three months or so. Why? Well the simple answer is that we have a few members (most notably Kunga and Chas) that have very strong opinions. Every once in a while they but heads, or wax poetic about stuff that is not strictly DV related. Well I say let them, it's better than getting porn and software spam... and sometimes it's quite amusing. Sometimes it's crazy... like that long thread about signatures... now it's about copyright... whatever. It's all a part of our reality as people who produce visual images that often encompass sound and text. It is our responsibility to think about these issues, formulate opinions and disseminate them to an unsuspecting audience... The list would be the poorer without their insight into the on topic stuff and if the cost of that is letting them go off every in a while about copyright or CPU speed I say let them... ________________ Matthew Guemple c. 646.734.6601 h. 646.742.0994 matblack at mac.com Matthew Guemple, Art Director, Men's Fitness 1 Park Avenue, 3rd Flr, New York, NY 10016 646.935.6919 matt.guemple at weiderpub.com