More please... I've just started learning AE, and I've not found it that steep, considering I have not done the tutorial or anything. the basics seem pretty basic. The same with Flash. My understanding is that there are many levels to all of these things... like power scripts for flash... and that's where the steep comes in. I think the real problem the OT is facing, is not the software, but the drawing. This example is listed as AE and Combustion... when I look at it I think... yeah it would be a challenge but I could do all this in AE I think... where does the Combustion come in? http://www.teeveeg.com/project/commercial/jaccs/index.html Jim? >> Since there has been talk of 3D programs, I was wondering how steep >> is the >> learning curve for Lightwave and Commotion. > short answer : steep > Jim ________________ Matthew Guemple Art Director/03 mo.og at verizon.net 646.734.6601 www.gridd.com http://www.creativehotlist.com/ index.asp?linkTarget=fullProfile.asp&indID=19599