I think there's a chance that following Panther's announcement at WWDC in two weeks, that system purchases will include a Panther upgrade when it ships for a small shipping fee. This is speculation based on unsubstantiated reports I've read on other sites. It has historical precedent. k On Sunday, June 8, 2003, at 08:02 AM, Stan Glass wrote: > Any speculations regarding whether or not Panther might be on the late > July issuing of the 17" PowerBook Kunga <http://www.ipod-zone.com> <http://www.cube-zone.com> <http://www.apple-zone.com> <http://www.osx-zone.com>