Look. Apple doesn't have some psychological warfare game against OS 9 laggards. They didn't stop allowing OS 9 booting because of some conspiracy against those who dislike/are afraid of/misunderstand/can't afford $69-$99 for OS X. It is a simple case of simplifying, optimizing and supporting the ROMs in the newest Macs for OS X. These "new" Macs are what's left of Apple's inventory of last year's "old" MDD motherboards and "old" 1.25 GHz G4 processors with 2MB L3 caches each, which happen to allow native booting into OS 9 because of their ROMs. The "new" dual 1.25 GHz G4 is not a pair of crippled 1.25 GHz processors from early 2003 with only 1 MB of L3 cache each. No. These are the "old" 2002 1.25 GHz G4 processors with 2 MB of L3 cache each in the "old" 2002 MDD motherboards WITHOUT a SuperDrive, a 40 GB smaller HD and 256 MB less RAM. If you think those "deficiencies" are worth the $800 difference between what the 2002 model was selling for a month ago REFURBISHED, then I think you should wait until October-November when you might be able to buy a G5 IF the advanced sales cue has subsided by then. Yes this computer runs OS 9 like a bat. No Apple is not "allowing" you to boot natively into 9 now because "the coast is clear." These are simply older motherboards from last year that happen to have that capability. It's a fire sale on the most powerful G4 to ever boot into OS 9 natively. Simple as that. i predict these will all be sold before the end of July and Apple will be facing the biggest drought of new PowerMacs not available for sale in the company's history. By the way, the single 1.25 GHz G4 model going for $1299 is the 2003 1.25 GHz G4 with ONLY 1 MB L3 cache - a far weaker machine for only $300 less - not in my opinion worth the difference between it and the dual model. IE a foolish choice when you can get radically more power for only $300 more. k On Wednesday, June 25, 2003, at 11:46 AM, Sean wrote: > Is Apple giving OS 9 a stay of execution by offering G4 Towers that > boot into 9 ? > Does Apple think that OS X adoption has reached the point of no return > and by allowing users to boot into OS 9 the threat to OS X is gone? > > A G4 Tower must run OS 9 apps like a bat!