I have not upgraded from 10.2.3 to 10.2.4 as yet due to problems some Members have had after doing so. Earlier reports indicated some people were having problems with "Mail" and "Toast" and locally, one of our Apple Club members is now having trouble with his internet banking since upgrading. On the plus side I note that audio sync problems within iMovie seem to have mainly gone away. Some people report no problems at all since upgrading eg. staff at my local Apple reseller. Has Roxio provided the patch for Toast as yet? Is it time to upgrade, or not? Ian Tucker Adelaide.