Yes, I agree. I actually find myself happy to do DTP. I was a Pagemaker user (even bought PM7, ack), and am so glad to have this wonderful "killer app" for OS X. I do hope they make a bunch of little and big changes to the program though. There are things I hate like, taking a bunch of pictures and not being able to say, all of you be one inch high and 0.8 inches wide. I've still got to do it picture by picture, holding the command key to force perspective, too (a very odd thing to do, holding the command key while you press the return key). Quark? Never heard of it. -- ________________________________ J-LIST http://www.jlist.com Thousands of unique products from Japan, from Hello Kitty toilet paper to miniature sushi to our world-famous "I'm looking for a Japanese girlfriend" T-shirts. Visit us now! Interested in my life in Japan? See the Peter Payne homepage at http://www.peterpayne.net/