Just to chime in... As to the archival nature of DV tape... Just to add to the string: Disney, which owns ABC Television (and at least half of all that's good on cable), is in the midst of an archiving campaign where they are duping Beta SP tapes to DVCAM, which is MiniDV style tape recorded at the DVCAM spec, which essentially matches Beta SP for picture with locked audio. DVCAM tapes are available in larger sizes than consumer MiniDV, up to 184 minutes, BUT, MiniDV (consumer size) DVCAM grade tape is available from companies like Sony. You simply need to ask for a 40 minute DVCAM tape, which is identical to a 60 minute MiniDV tape (DVCAM just runs FASTER than MiniDV to accommodate its specification) which means, in MiniDV format, the DVCAM 40 runs 60 minutes. The Sony DVCAM tapes work fine in MiniDV equipment, and are professional grade, not consumer grade. Simply, the mechanism is professional, which is matched by the larger, professional case, which puts an air cushion between your tape and the heat of the day, not to mention the higher quality in general with bona fide, write-worthy inserts, UNLIKE MiniDV tapes, which scoff at proper record keeping given their intended amateur perspective. DVCAM tapes, given the due diligence a company like Disney goes through prior to making archiving decisions, should likely give anyone considering archiving to MiniDV the best possible longevity. Digital recording, in general, is more robust magnetically than analogue. Like any tape, however, STORAGE becomes a central issue in making an archive. Tapes should always be stored ON EDGE (the spools of tape are VERTICAL) and never flat. Tape is very delicate and the weight of a spool, plus gravity, can cause physical damage over the long (and sometimes short) term. Next, HUMIDITY is a concern. Control it to limit oxidation. Finally, store away from speakers and magnetic sources. Magnetic fields, even at a distance, will slowly erase a tape, but this is a bit esoteric. Again, digital signals will be more robust than analog regardless of storage methods, all things being equal. Richard Brown go2rba.com > > Ted Langdell > Ted Langdell Creative Broadcast Services > Marysville, CA > > By "lifespan" do you mean the expected amount of time that 8mm, Hi8 > and D8 tapes may be physically playable before deterioration occurs? > > One might argue that the larger tape width of 8mm/Hi8/D8 would make > that format more "robust" since the data is spread over a larger > surface area on each track, making the system more likely to be able > to play back a deteriorating tape. > > Mini-DV/DVCAM/DVCPro tape is roughly half the width of 8mm/Hi8/D8. > > I can understand your feelings that Mini-DV decks will be produced > after D8 decks may be off the market. > > Ted, > > On Aug 6, 2004, at 5:41 AM, Macintosh Digital Video List wrote: