Richard, The comments I have made follow the rules of discourse and logic that are accepted among educated people everywhere. They have been shaped and evolved and worked since the time of the ancient Greeks. They form the basis of the scientific method worldwide. If you or anyone wishes to make a claim, you have to produce evidence in support to those who challenge it. If you would like some other process, then fine, but you cannot pretend that you have "won" the discussion, or that you have demonstrated anything at all, or that your other process shows anything except a lack of understanding about how factual matters are resolved objectively. When I get around to writing the benchmarks, I shall do my utmost to evaluate the proposition carefully to reach an accurate answer. [I know this is not the normal industry meaning of "benchmark"]. Why would I bother investing a minute of my time in anything less? I am not interested in "winning" a debate (I have already done that because people have been unable to show the data on which they base their illogical beliefs). I am interested in showing what the factors are, and allowing others to look at the evidence and make their own minds up. And there is a very small, but non-zero, chance that I am wrong because of some factor that I have overlooked. The benchmark will endeavor to find that. Part of this involves making public the source code and benchmark process. That will allow anyone to comment on it, to suggest improvements, and to reproduce it for themselves. How amusing that you should think there is any point in doing otherwise. Peter