I don't think they are clones. Apple make them but with HP cover. On Saturday, January 10, 2004, at 12:34 PM, Kochkodin wrote: > Anyone remember the clones and what they did to Apple? This is a bad > idea. Appe should pay companies to > pre-install iTunes but not allow clones. HP will sell these cheaply > and its going to take a big bite out of Apple sales even if they > are made so they will only work on Windows or HP machines. They should > be limited to HPs to protect Apple's turf but this way it may > help increase the amount of iPods out there and in the long run Apple > but if it does hurt them it can't bite to deeply. > . The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard. Steven Wright