On Jan 23, 2004, at 9:04 AM, Gregg Gorrie wrote: > Absolutely! When the same company makes the hardware, the operating > system, > AND the applications, it's very easy to control the upgrade cycle. I disagree with the idea that Apple can force upgrades in this way. Buy Toast and an external DVD-R drive. Works with just about any Mac OS (9 on up) and just about any G3, including many upgrades. Apple in no way has a monopoly on these things. In fact, one could argue that by charging for iDVD etc,. Apple is actually making it easier for other players to get into the game. -Mike