thanks for this help, but... does this apply if the mac is saying the disk needs initialising - it's just it sounds more like something which would prevent any communication between disk and computer? I perhaps didn't make it clear how green I am with all this. Despite using a mac for 15 years I only ever venture beyond the basic system when it involves RAM or an airport card ditto beyond norton and diskwarrior for troubleshooting so, as an example of why I'm confused by the reply, I don't know what an ATA bus is fyi I have a 12" powerbook [OS10.2.8] and an old DV iMac [OS9.2.2] thanks mark At 7:46 -0700 19/5/04, Gregg Gorrie wrote: >on 5/19/04 3:35 AM, R B Williams at brucewll at comcast.net wrote: > >> It think it would be worthwhile to remove the drive from the case and see if >> it is >> recognized as an internal under either OS. That worked for a FW drive issue >> once. (I >> later found out that the Mac PCI firewire driver extension was >>corrupted, but >> needed a >> faster solution than troubleshooting allowed at the time) >> >> R.B. >> >> Mark Walker wrote: >> > >I would agree with the above ... take out the drive and attach it to an ATA >bus (or if the case also has USB connector, try that). I had an OWC Mercury >Elite case and it's FW bridge died (twice under warranty and third just >after). The drive was fine. >-- >Gregg > > >---------- ><http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/MacDV.html>. >Send a message to <MacDV-DIGEST at themacintoshguy.com> to switch to >the digest version. > > XRouter | Share your DSL or cable modem between multiple computers! >Dr. Bott | Now $139.99 <http://www.drbott.com/prod/xrouter.html> > > Cyberian | Support this list when you buy at Outpost.com! > Outpost | http://www.themacintoshguy.com/outpost.shtml > >MacResQ Specials: LaCie SCSI CDR From $99! PowerBook 3400/200 Only $879! >Norton AntiVirus 6 Only $19! We Stock PARTS! <http://www.macresq.com> -- Mark Walker ************** Sussex Community Internet Project http://www.scip.org.uk THE FUTURE IS ABOUT PEOPLE NOT TECHNOLOGY SCIP, Community Base, 113 Queens Road, Brighton BN1 3XG TEL 01273 234049 * MARK'S MOBILE 07956 627116 ************** SCIP is supported by Brighton & Hove Regeneration Partnership and Brighton & Hove City Council. SCIP was founded in 1995 and is registered as an incorporated not for profit private limited company, reg. no. 3819836. **************