>The last time I looked this was a Mac DV list, not a forum for >whining Americans. > >Roy Harker You're absolutely right, Roy. It's just that this is a special election: it's not just between Bush and Kerry; it's really between those Americans who secretly (unconsciously) want a fascist state and those who don't. American Empire and fuck the rest of the world; or American membership in a world community. So, it kinda preempts DV, at least for a few hours. Relax. If Bush wins, there'll be civil war. If Kerry wins, there'll be a chance -- but only a slim chance -- of averting civil war. Our country is divided, and it'll take a miracle to heal the rift. Lanny