you are a hate-filled ranting nincompoop mouthing pre-digested opinions. what the constitution says is that congress shall make no law *establishing a religion*. that's it. The "separation of church and state" you proclaim is an interpretation of that constitutional requirement. And the guys who wrote the Declaration and all our early papers including the Constitution wore their religious beliefs openly. In fact, the Declaration was based on rights that they saw as derived from a "Just God." On Nov 3, 2004, at 6:51 PM, illovox at comcast.net wrote: > Clair, are you an idiot? It's in the CONSTITUTION, you freakishly > Holier-than-thou, doddering, evengelical, fascistic, theocratic biddy, > that > there shall be a separation of Church and State. It's been supported > by > legislation for over 200 years. I suppose we should look forward to > the > 2007 Apocalypse of the 2nd Testament, to the rantings of Nostrodamus, > to the > way the World is according to YOU? Shall we get used to that snide, > unspoken superiority you neo-Christians mistake for piety? And those > who > are not Christians, shall we lose our rights in this new world American > order? Health care a hand out? This nation has always fought against > its > Puritanical, Calvanistic tendancies, its dark side. Now we see it for > what > it is and Nathaniel Hawthorne must be turning in his grave... > >> From: Claire Hart <listaddy at hartsites.com> >> Reply-To: "A place to discuss digital video on Macintosh." >> <macdv at listserver.themacintoshguy.com> >> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 17:25:40 -0600 >> To: macdv at listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> Subject: [MacDV] Will Bush win? >> >>> It amazes me that so many Conservatives (not all) forget that we >>> left church and state rulership to found a nation predicated on >>> SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. Nobody denies anyone's right to >>> their >> >> Separation of church and state was not part of the foundation of our >> nation. Thomas Jefferson wrote a letter to a church in January 1802 >> with that phrase in it. Rather than go on and on about its history >> here, you can check it out on Google. If you want to know what the >> convictions of the founding fathers were, I can give you more info >> privately. >> >> Claire