[MacDV] Will Bush win? The true Republican "Base"
illovox at comcast.net
illovox at comcast.net
Wed Nov 3 16:18:31 PST 2004
What a wipe. What exactly does "no law establishing a religion" mean if not
there shall be NO OFFICIAL RELIGION. And "interpretation" as opposed to
what, God-given true knowledge from on high? Only you holier than thou dips
have the true vision? All LAW is based upon interpretation, clod.
> From: Don Hinkle <donhinkle at mac.com>
> Reply-To: "A place to discuss digital video on Macintosh."
> <macdv at listserver.themacintoshguy.com>
> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 19:15:20 -0500
> To: "A place to discuss digital video on Macintosh."
> <macdv at listserver.themacintoshguy.com>
> Subject: Re: [MacDV] Will Bush win? The true Republican "Base"
>
> you are a hate-filled ranting nincompoop mouthing pre-digested opinions.
> what the constitution says is that congress shall make no law
> *establishing a religion*.
> that's it. The "separation of church and state" you proclaim is an
> interpretation of that constitutional requirement.
> And the guys who wrote the Declaration and all our early papers
> including the Constitution wore their religious beliefs openly. In
> fact, the Declaration was based on rights that they saw as derived from
> a "Just God."
>
> On Nov 3, 2004, at 6:51 PM, illovox at comcast.net wrote:
>
>> Clair, are you an idiot? It's in the CONSTITUTION, you freakishly
>> Holier-than-thou, doddering, evengelical, fascistic, theocratic biddy,
>> that
>> there shall be a separation of Church and State. It's been supported
>> by
>> legislation for over 200 years. I suppose we should look forward to
>> the
>> 2007 Apocalypse of the 2nd Testament, to the rantings of Nostrodamus,
>> to the
>> way the World is according to YOU? Shall we get used to that snide,
>> unspoken superiority you neo-Christians mistake for piety? And those
>> who
>> are not Christians, shall we lose our rights in this new world American
>> order? Health care a hand out? This nation has always fought against
>> its
>> Puritanical, Calvanistic tendancies, its dark side. Now we see it for
>> what
>> it is and Nathaniel Hawthorne must be turning in his grave...
>>
>>> From: Claire Hart <listaddy at hartsites.com>
>>> Reply-To: "A place to discuss digital video on Macintosh."
>>> <macdv at listserver.themacintoshguy.com>
>>> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 17:25:40 -0600
>>> To: macdv at listserver.themacintoshguy.com
>>> Subject: [MacDV] Will Bush win?
>>>
>>>> It amazes me that so many Conservatives (not all) forget that we
>>>> left church and state rulership to found a nation predicated on
>>>> SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. Nobody denies anyone's right to
>>>> their
>>>
>>> Separation of church and state was not part of the foundation of our
>>> nation. Thomas Jefferson wrote a letter to a church in January 1802
>>> with that phrase in it. Rather than go on and on about its history
>>> here, you can check it out on Google. If you want to know what the
>>> convictions of the founding fathers were, I can give you more info
>>> privately.
>>>
>>> Claire
>
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