Lanny: Here is the process: You need two drives, either physical or virtual (a partitioned hard drive is fine) You must be booted off the partition or hard drive that you want to copy. You launch CCCloner and select all the files, select the target disk (which is the 2nd drive) and then you must click on the lock icon to unlock your disk. You type in your password (if you set one) and then you can click on the Clone button. It will take a while, depending upon how much stuff you have. (Your boot drive containing your OS X sytem files include a number of "hidden" files that don't get copied when you use a "drag and drop" method. The CCCloner application includes all these files.) Next, you restart, and holding down the Option key until you see your two hard drive icons on the screen, click on the icon of the 2nd drive to choose the 2nd drive or partition for the restart. You could also use System Prefs to change the Start Up disk to the 2nd drive or partition and then choose Restart. Once you have restarted your computer and you are running on the 2nd drive, go to Disk Utility and Erase the first drive or partition. If you want to do any reformatting (partitioning) now is the time. Now, you repeat the CCCloner process to go from the 2nd drive back to the first drive. Once this is done, you can erase the 2nd drive, or you can leave it alone as a backup in case your first drive goes down. This is why many people use a separate media drive. If you don't have to copy the OSX files, you can use the "drag and drop" to move all your files to the backup drive, then erase the media drive, then copy the files back, again with "drag and drop". Much much faster than having to Clone an operating system with about a million files. To digress just a little, I recommend that you buy an external drive and Clone your main hard drive. Keep this drive and then using the Drag and Drop method, copy over the User Folder every week or so or even set up SuperDuper to do it automatically every evening. I'm sure you know that when you copy a folder onto a location where there is already an existing folder of the same name, the computer will ask you if you want to replace it. This is what you want it to do, so that you are constantly updating your backup drive. That way, if you have a problem with your main hard drive, you are all backed up. Anytime you update the OS or install new software, you can do the whole Clone again. Having a hard drive go down or get corrupted happens to EVERYBODY! Eventually. It sounds like you are doing a lot of stuff that is important to you and that if it all went away one day you would be very upset. hth, regards, sb On 1/8/05 5:46 PM, "Lanny Cotler" <lcotler at saber.net> wrote: >> The best, cheapest, and fastest way to defrag a hard drive is to copy all >> the files over to another one, erase the disk using the disk tool>erase >> disk, and then copy the files back over. >> >> regards, >> >> sb > > To do this to the main boot drive, what is the procedure? > > thanks, > > L > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV at listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv