We've had the "duplicating copy-protected DVD's" discussion numerous times on this list and I thought I had a handle on it but obviously not.... The details: I bought "Polar Express" (children's animation DVD) from a pawn shop and we went to watch it a few weeks later and found it had a pit mark (manufacturing defect) on the outer edge of the disc which caused about 5 minutes of coughing and spluttering before it continued on (just when Santa's big bag of presents was being lowered into the slay). My sister-in-law also has the DVD so I thought I'd simply burn off a copy of that and be happy with a burned disc. As an experiment I loaded her good disc into my MacBook Pro drive (10.4.10) and used Disk Utility to make a disk image of it (via "Disc Image from [inserted disc]"). It didn't complain about it being copy protected and created the image without a problem so I assumed Apple had possibly lifted the copy protection bar on the latest Disk Utility. I then used Toast Lite to burn the image to a dual layer disc on my external DL writer. I ticked simulation mode because I have had previous DL problems with the external drive and sure enough it errored near the end. I wasn't too surprised with the error but was happy I ticked simulation mode. However, the disc had been written to (arrrgh), so I lost DL disc 1. I then tried burning the image to a DL disc in the MacBook Pro drive (again with simulation ticked) but it again errored AND wrote to the disc (Aaaarrrrggghhhh!) - dead DL disc 2. I then used MacTheRipper to download the disc to my drive, removing all copy protection etc, and used Toast Lite to do a data copy of the created folder (with VIDEO_TS folder) and it burned without error but it won't read when inserted into my home DVD player. Apple's "DVD Player" also doesn't recognise it unless I choose the VIDEO_TS folder via "Open DVD Media" where it does play normally - dead DL disc 3 (sigh). So what is needed to get the "ripped" disc happily back onto a disc which will play like a normal Disc??? And why on earth did the disc get written to when I ticked "simulation mode" in Toast Lite (v6)? Sorry this post was soo long but people always ask clarifying questions so I thought I may as well put it all in here the first post. Regards to all, Cojcolds