I miss-spoke, thanks all for correcting the miss-information. Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDV for another decent explanation sam On Mon, 18 May 2009 22:26 -0600, "Derek Roff" <derek at unm.edu> wrote: > > Basically, Cameras that record to disk may or may not use some form > > of compression. Cameras that record to tape do not, just like SD > > tape cameras. > > I disagree with the above statement. All video formats are > compressed, even the ones that are called "uncompressed" (whose video > is compressed by technology limitations, including intentionally > blurring lens elements and low-resolution sensor circuits, rather > than by mathematical algorithms). The differences lie in how the > compression is done, and the impact that has on the workflow and the > video product. The mini-DV tape that has carried the digital > camcorder wave of the last decade, recording Standard Definition in > the DV25 encoding, is compressed by both technology limitations (lens > quality, sensor size) and algorithms. HDV records High Definition to > mini-DV tape in MPEG-2 encoding, which is more highly compressed > (mathematically) than DV25. > > Although this is the twilight of tape, I would still pick a tape > camera today. The current market for consumer tapeless cameras is > rather chaotic, with many lousy codecs and encoding schemes (or is > that "lossy"?). I don't expect any of them to last five years, > whereas DV25 and MPEG-2 will be supported in editing software for > longer than that, because of the massive amount of archive material. > > People often tout the speed of file transfer to the computer as an > advantage of the tapeless formats, but that speed advantage is > compromised by the time it takes to transcode or expand the format > into something editable. The higher compression rates of tapeless > camcorders result in lower quality video, with more artifacts. That > is why I prefer tape, at present. > > Someday soon, a decent tapeless codec/encoding will appear, and we > will be able to say goodbye to tape. For the moment, I, too, like > the Canon HV30 as a consumer-level camera with nice features, good > video quality, and the ability to shoot HD or SD video onto mini-DV > cassettes. > > Derek > > Derek Roff > Language Learning Center > Ortega Hall 129, MSC03-2100 > University of New Mexico > Albuquerque, NM 87131-0001 > 505/277-7368, fax 505/277-3885 > Internet: derek at unm.edu > > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV at listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv