John- You didn't say if you'd checked ATI's website for the most recent driver, or what OS you were running, etc. While I haven't personally seen or heard about this problem, more info is always nice... maut I recently upgraded the video card in my G4 tower to an ATI 8500. Now I've lost the ability to play several older games. Specifically I now get a black screen instead of the game screen. I can hear the video in the background. I know that this was a fairly common problem and there was a simple cure but I've forgotten what it was and where I read about it. (CRS) Does anybody have any info on the cure? John Can't Remember Squat _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus