>No mike Pre's w/ an optical out? >That would be a clean set up. The new Mackie Onyx 800R looks WAY cool. http://www.mackie.com/namm/800r.html There's also the PreSonus stuff: http://www.presonus.com/html/products/digimax_96k.html http://www.presonus.com/html/products/digimax_lt.html http://www.presonus.com/html/products/digitube.html http://www.presonus.com/html/products/vxp.html (w/ optional 24/96 digital output card) http://www.presonus.com/html/products/firestation.html http://www.presonus.com/html/products/eureka.html (w/ optional 24/192 digital output card) I'm sure that there are probably many other brands/models out there, but I have a feeling that some of them will be quite expensive. I haven't A/B'd any of the above gear, but I did A/B an original PreSonus Digimax against the 'older' Mackie XDR mic pre, and the Mackie won hands down via its analog outputs. And I SO wanted to love the Digimax... hence, I bought a Mackie 1604-VLZ Pro, mostly for the 16 mic preamps, but the rest of the board won me over as well. I'll probably buy the Onyx 800R on faith alone, though I guess I should try to arrange a loaner over the weekend when the units become available in my area (Dallas). Scott Jacob Loehr