I was with a startup company in 1984 trying to use Dragon software to control an Intel 186 based laptop! Mac Speech and iListen have sure been a long time coming for me, even though they are not using the Dragon engine....... John ============================================================ From Wired Magazine, available online at: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.02/code.html?pg=1&topic=&topic_set= Immortal Code The CEO goes to trial. The programmers hit the street. And yet sometimes a piece of code is so elegant, so evolved, that it outlasts everything else. By Martha Baer --- SNIP ( the article is 22k long and the list only accepts 10k sized messages.....sigh..... Martha Baer (martha at wiredmag.com) is a senior editor at Wired.