SR comparisons, was:Re: [MV] IBM ViaVoice 3 and 10.4.7

[Paul Spilseth]

Chuck,
I would like to use iListen, but ViaVoice has a medical dictionary  
that I need.
Paul Spilseth, MD

On Sep 2, 2006, at 12:23 AM, Chuck Rogers wrote:

> Valerie:
>
> Thanks for your email.
>
> My comments were in general, not specifics. iListen will indeed  
> learn regarding possessives, and anything iListen can do in a  
> browser, iListen can do - although you may have to write some of  
> the scripts yourself to do it.
>
> I would never presume to compare an out of the box iListen to an  
> out of the box Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Not today, anyway. We have  
> a long way to go before I would even be willing to submit to such a  
> comparison.
>
> But, if you AREN'T a dual-platform user and you ARE a Mac user - or  
> you are simply willing and able to put in the extra work it takes  
> to get iListen up to where things are "out of the box" with Dragon,  
> then my comments stand true - again, in general.
>
> There are trade offs. Dragon gives you complete speech control over  
> itself. Because of some technical limitations in the Mac OS, we  
> can't do that (we are working on partial control, however and we  
> will continue to work on full control for a future version).
>
> Please do not read anything into my comments that aren't there, and  
> don't put words into my mouth or thoughts in my head (its  crowded  
> enough in there already). In summary, I would submit iListen is  
> better than ViaVoice in every way, which is what started this  
> thread - accuracy, command and control, everything. Regarding  
> Dragon, if you are willing to work, iListen can equal Dragon in  
> most cases. In the remaining areas where iListen falls short (such  
> as voice control of itself), it makes up for it in other areas (as  
> with its ability to offer virtually complete control of any  
> application and the Mac OS through scripting). Regarding scripting,  
> you have to pay $800 for Dragon to get anything close to what  
> iListen offers you for $99.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Chuck Rogers
>
>
> On Sep 2, 2006, at 12:16 AM, Valerie Maples wrote:
>
>> Chuck;
>>
>> As a dual platform user I must respectfully disagree strongly.   
>> Although I give iListen an edge in mousing with MouseAywhere over  
>> grid and other options in DNS, the other two statements are  
>> patently untrue.  Proper name and possessive recognition alone are  
>> infinitely better in DNS, both out of the box and with training,  
>> and command and control integrated into all dictation is seamless  
>> without transitioning between two vocabularies.  Then when you  
>> look at command and control in browsers, well, they are not even  
>> on the same planet.
>>
>> I am a diehard Mac user and strong proponent of iListen and  
>> continued development of SR for Macs.  I use my Mac for 95% of my  
>> workload, but the simple fact iListen does not recognize nor offer  
>> correction options of my last name capitalized (Maples) after  
>> every conceivable training, teaching, and correction in addition  
>> to issues mentioned with inconsistent ability to get words like  
>> period or paragraph (slightly better in 1.7, but still not great)  
>> to spell out handicap its performance considerably.
>>
>> Since I have used many products successfully for many years on  
>> both platforms and still do to this day as well as having been a  
>> professional trainer for Voc Rehab and being married to a  
>> quadriplegic dependent on SR, I feel I have unique experience on  
>> this topic.  I do not bash iListen for limitations due to OS  
>> issues, speech engine limitations or a shorter development  
>> history, but to say iListen surpasses DNS in any area (except my  
>> penchant for MouseAnywhere)  has no merit in my 12 years of  
>> experience with SR.
>>
>> Valerie Maples
>>
>> Dual 2 GHz PowerPC G5
>> 2 GB DDR SDRAM
>> OSX 10.4.7
>> Sennheiser e835
>> Andrea USB pod
>> IListen 1.70
>>
>>
>> On Sep 1, 2006, at 11:49 PM, Chuck Rogers wrote:
>>
>>> But with regard to the accuracy you can attain, it is only that  
>>> they can get you more accurate *sooner,* not more accurate no  
>>> matter what, forever. And when it comes to command and control of  
>>> the interface, we win - hands down.
>>
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