I spent a considerable amount of time with a Doctor in Gainesville Florida doing just that. 4 minutes is totally wrong. 30 seconds at the outside. Over and over again. No question about it, and he was not a guru. The secret is to use the Correct with Copy and Paste feature we introduced in version 1.7. The other side of the coin, Gavin, is that even if we compromise and say it is a minute or so which is still way too long per word), the up front investment of time ONCE for those words pales in comparison to the number of times they will be used over the life of the program. I'd like to provide some closure to this discussion by simply saying that I acknowledge there are those who use Dragon and will never change. I also know of many medical professionals who will insist that iListen is just as fast and just as accurate. Both of those types of people tend to be on opposite ends of the curve. Far more people either put up with Windows, or put up with iListen, or just prefer Dragon, or just prefer iListen. On Sep 19, 2007, at 2:59 PM, Gavin Wynford-Jones wrote: > Chuck, I suggest you take out a stopwatch and try acting as if > you're a semi-experienced user rather than a guru. Then dictate a > *real* medical report. Better still, get a real doc to do it in > front of you. Ten bucks says I'm closer to the real timing overall > than you once you add it all up. > > Gavin > > On 19 Sep 2007, at 21:17, Chuck Rogers wrote: > >> Gavin: >> >> I appreciate your comments - and we never stop listening to our >> customers. But it certainly doesn't take 4 minutes to add a word, >> and there is no need to break your dictation rhythm. You dictate, >> iListen gets something wrong, then you add all the words in >> correction. At best, it should take 10 or 15 seconds to add a new >> word in this method. >> >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Chuck Rogers, Chief Evangelist >> MacSpeech, Inc. >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 19, 2007, at 12:33 PM, Gavin Wynford-Jones wrote: >> >>> Chuck, each word you have to add and correct takes a finite time >>> to do (I took a ballpark figure of 4 minutes). Worse, each new >>> term breaks the dictation rhythm which further adds to the lost >>> time. >>> >>> Dragon (Scansoft, Nuance...) has a vocabulary that is a bit of a >>> catch-all. If so many doctors are using or are interested in >>> iListen then having a series of very specialised vocabularies >>> makes sense: one for cardiology, one for urology etc. Each would >>> be between 500 and 1200 words. >>> >>> Apart from the lack of a French version, the most frequent reason >>> I hear for not buying iListen is "lack of specialised >>> vocabularies". (And I'm not just talking medical here, lawyers >>> and others need 'em.) >>> >>> To counter your Gainesville example: I had a DNS client, a >>> lawyer, who swore by DNS. I told him about iListen when he was >>> thinking of moving to Mac and tried to do a little evangelism for >>> MacSpeech. He did a little maths: it would cost him at least CHF >>> 4800 in lost billable time to get enough samples into iListen and >>> run through a few pages of dictation to get started. For that >>> money, he could buy the DNS Legal, have quite a bit of change, >>> and still have most of his billable hours... *That* is the >>> mentality you're up against: these people make very good money, >>> so price isn't much of an object, time (and therefore >>> convenience) is. >>> >>> Gavin >>> >>> On 19 Sep 2007, at 18:53, Chuck Rogers wrote: >>> >>>> We have a doctor in Gainesville. He added words as he went. It >>>> did not take him 130 hours to add 1800 words. Not even close. He >>>> insists he didn't even notice the process. He added the word >>>> using Correction or Learn My Writing Style, iListen learned it. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> MacVoice mailing list >>> MacVoice at listserver.themacintoshguy.com >>> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macvoice >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MacVoice mailing list >> MacVoice at listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macvoice >> > > > _______________________________________________ > MacVoice mailing list > MacVoice at listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macvoice