Hello, I don't know when it will happen.....this week or next...but my credit card is crying to be used to upgrade to the latest groovy version of iListen. I may actually start using it...heh...most of my work involves discrete speech navigation in virtual environments and GUI scripting in Cocoa is fine. Eventually, my paradigms have to be dragged kicking and screaming CONTINUOUSLY into the third millennium. I have to run boot camp to run some specialized graphics software. Just 3-6 programs a few times a year. The manufacturers will never support the Macintosh. However, If I can afford it, I always by the closest equivalent Macintosh software. In some cases I can acquire GNU software. John F. Richardson