>What is you thinking on the CD concept? I'm curious. > >I used an external 12x firewire cd burner (oops - forgot to mention >that) so the internal burner was just being read from - not written >to. > >do you still suspect the cdr/dvd drive? have you tried unplugging the external -- all external -- devices and going thru those various boot processes? My thinking is the hang is coming before it is getting to any software, when the boxen is running thru hardware/firmware checks. FWTDM does not, to my knowledge, do any hardware checks. BTW, I would certainly back up everything while in that mode, in case this is the beginning of something more severe. I guessed CD because you were doing CD activity; it could be the external burner, as well, or the port that the burner is plugged in to. -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Mike Bigley Maineville, Ohio http://www.norbertrunning.com Please support an American Indian Elder & Medicine Man by visiting the above link. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>