Excuse me if this has already been addressed, but I do not think it has. Using a Ti500 and this question is really not Ti related, however I've seen DVD Region free drives addressed here about a dozen times so here goes. I am in Japan, yesterday I purcased an encoded sony CD to extract for my own personal use. through trial and error using Toast and iTunes I was able to finally extract 80 per cent of the songs into AIFF files. It was difficult and time consuming. It crashed OS 9 over 3 times. Trying it in Jaguar was a little better it only crashed the related programs a few times. Question is, does anyone know of any programs on the net to grab these songs, copy or extract would be nice, for personal use only of course. If there is nothing I can certainly say that I have no intentions of purchasing any encoded CD's from any of these crazy companies as this will only further their red ink. This in no way will ever stop piracy. If I could do 80 per cent extraction the first time, some pirate can certainly do better than I. When the CD is inserted into the drive it shows up on the desktop as two CD's one is full of encoding things and one folder actually reads as a player. The other CD when opened contains AIFF files, at least that's what they are under Jaguar. The CD I had contained 5 AIFF files, I extracted all but the second and shortest file it hung on 1.5 MB every time and produced the spinning colored beach ball and finally just messing everything up requiring a relaunch of almost everything running at the time. Any help appreciated, are these things out in the states as well? This encoding is not the type where by you mark the outer edge of the CD with a marker or tape, that will not work with this encoding. B