> > I reflected that this system X is so stable, that when the Ti locks, > so rarely does it happen, that it gives me a strange feeling. We > have moved on a lot in these last years, haven't we, from when we > accepted this as a daily occurrence? we have indeed Trevor. The other great thing is that when i first had 10.1.1 installed on my Ti400 I used to get these kernel panics maybe once a month, and have seen the number and frequency of them decline to where I am now: 10.2.4 and the last such problem was November of last year! -- Tarik Bilgin Opalblue tarik at opalblue.com