I guess I feel the need to jump and add my $0.02 worth about the Apple Store service blowing. I spent right around $40,000 of my own personal money in the Fashion Valley (San Diego) Apple Store in 2002. I purchased a couple of Macs for myself, but most were given away to push friends into switching (Friends don't let friends do Windows). You would think that I would get a little respect there, but that is not the case. Recently I took in a PowerBook (1GHz/DVI) to finally collect on the rain check for the "double your memory for $40" offer. This machine was purchased for a friend in early December, and I had been trying to collect on the memory offer since. First they threatened to charge me $40 to install it making it really a "double your memory for $80" deal. After they discovered that I did have AppleCare they were nice enough to do it for free. The idea of charging $40 for a 5 minute job is crazy. This should be simple customer service. I offered to change the memory right there at the so called "Genius" bar, but was told that they could not let me do that because I might damage it. So I left the machine there while I did some other shopping. When I came back, it was ready and they gave it to me. I started to walk out with it, then I thought, I had better turn it on and check it out. IT WOULD NOT EVEN BOOT! They had not tested it. So I went back to the Idiot Bar to show them. They took the machine in the back for 20 minutes or so and then came out and told me that the mother board was dead. So their technician that was so much more qualified than me to change the memory had killed the computer, and had not even tested it. They were embarrassed and did get me a new PowerBook to replace it, but transferring the data took another hour that I really did not have to spare. So overall all it cost me an hour and a half or so to get a 5 minute memory swap. A general complaint that I have about about the Fashion Valley Apple Store is that everything takes so long. The process of checking in a computer for repair can take an hour. The system is very inefficient. Buying a computer takes way too long there too. The system is slow, the people are slow. Everything just takes way too long. I think that the Genius Bar would be more aptly named an Idiot Bar. I have spent way too much time hanging around the Genius Bar listing to the idiots there interacting with the customers and spreading as much misinformation as correct information. Several times I could not resist jumping in and helping out the customer myself. It is really quite pathetic. There is one intelligent life form that works there, but the rest should be sent back to Radio Shack or McDonalds or where ever he came from. Another interesting experience I had there recently was before the Big Als were shipping. They had one non functional unit on a rotating display. I was looking at it, and opening and closing it. Just generally checking it out. A "Salesperson" came over and told me not to touch it because the display weighed 250 pounds, and I might knock it down. This display is suspended on 4 steel cables. I don't think that I could knock it down, and if that is possible, they should re-engineer it instead of sending customers away. But now it gets better. After we told me not to touch it, he turned and walked away. He did not ask me if I had any questions, he did not ask me if I would like to pre-order one. He did not tell me about the early bird promotion or any other promotions. He did not say "Can I help you?". Nothing. This guy has probably been to Home Depot Customer Avoidance Training. I used to like going to the Apple Store, but I really think that the place is going down hill. I have had several negative experiences there lately. It is just not fun anymore. I think that the Manager there is an idiot and should be fired. I have not been too any other Apple Stores, but I think that this one is becoming an embarrassment to Apple. I met the district manager there once (when I was spending $15,000 on Christmas presents). I think her name was Stacey, but I am not sure. She seemed nice. I don't know how to contact her, or I would sent this same rant. I wonder if she would care. Sherman