David DelMonte paused, thought it over, and spoke thusly: >I still cant get to my Credit Union! Stuck with old reliable IE or Omni. > >David That's unfortunate. The Apple Bug report would be a good place to file the address of the page that won't load. I take it that means an https page. Safari works fine with my Bank [always the 1st page i check out]. I like Omni's way of offering several different SSL types to negotiate with differing security systems. Safari runs faster on my Mac than the others, including Camino, which itself, is only marginally faster than Omni, but safari seems to lack an easily-found setting to change the way it presents itself to 'finicky' Web sites. flipper