Trevor asked : >Who would find use for an OS8.1 Mac running at 33 Mhz? Plenty of folks Send 'em to Lorraine at MacRenewal http://www.happy-mac.com/macrenewal/index.html quote Since 1999, MacRenewal volunteers have repaired, placed and served as a technical support resource for 1,000 computers and their new owners: people who experience disabilities, people who are homebound and/or bed ridden, elders, children living in Oregon foster care homes, adults who have been moving from institutional care into group homes, economically disadvantaged youth and adults, migrant workers and their children, and economically strapped families of color. MacRenewal has just begun working with Partners in Solidarity, a non-profit group supporting rural Guatemalan communities in self-sustainable development. So far, MacRenewal computers have been placed in 35 different hospitals, clinics, schools, non-government organizations, orphanages, and shelters. unquote They can arrange to pick up Macs Go for it!!!!!!! lorraine at macrenewal.org macrenewal at mac.com Telephone 541.686.2366 (24/7) http://www.happy-mac.com/macrenewal/index.html pax Richard -- Richard Edwards Principal Pison Studio LLP http://www.pison.com +44 20 8343 2186 Desk +44 7905 792 387 Mobile