This all sounds like a perfectly adequate way for San Franciscans to identify and look down their noses at visitors. On Friday, April 25, 2003, at 12:56 PM, Sam Hotchkiss wrote: > On 4/25/03 10:42 AM, "Tarik Bilgin" <tarik at opalblue.com> wrote: > I usually say "san francisco" yep, straight up, all 4 syllables-- but I > decided to consult the experts on this, : > > http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?lastnode_id=510789&node_id=538126 > "I try to explain to people that hearing "Frisco" or "San Fran", or > seeing > it on a t-shirt , sounds like fingernails scraping on a blackboard to a > resident. Ack. Stop it please. I usually get one of two reactions > to my > request. One is "Oh I will now intentionally call it those names at > every > possible opportunity, just to annoy you ." The other reaction is " > Well, > what do you call it, then? " which I will attempt to answer now. > 1) The City . This is most common if you're in Silicon Valley . > It > may seem ambiguous, but what other city could it be referring to? > Oakland > ?San Jose ? Hah. We laugh at those places, much like New Yorkers > laugh at, > uh, every other city in the world. (Admittedly, this is probably > because of > ignorance of those places. I haven't been to San Jose in almost 2 > years.) > 2) The name of the neighborhood you're going to . This is more > common > among SF residents. It is a smaller city than many , but > personalities of > San Francisco neighborhoods vary widely. Try "Gonna grab a burrito in > the > Mission " or "Meet you at Tart to Tart in the Sunset ". > 3) SF is OK in text. Sometimes I use the airport code, SFO . > 4) If the full name " San Francisco " is used, at least get rid > of the > assonance in the 2nd word. Shorten the "a" in "Francisco"; say "San > Frinn-ciss-co" or "San Francis-co" but not "San Fraaaann-cisco". > Except if > you're Frank Sinatra ; the chairman can sing it his way . > Okay, now that I've explained it, you can resume calling it San Fran to > intentionally annoy me, while wearing the glitter y "Frisco" t-shirt > you > bought at Fisherman's Wharf , and hanging off of the cable car with > the huge > line of tourists also waiting to take the cable car, preventing its > use as > public transportation by actual residents. But it's okay, cause I'll > laugh > my ass off when you try to make a left turn off of Market, and hunt for > street parking near Union Square ." > > http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?lastnode_id=510789&node_id=510789 > > "NOBODY in who lives in the Bay Area calls San Francisco "Frisco ". > Only > some lame *censored* tourists who want to sound local say Frisco and > everybody who lives here knows that. We call it The City , *censored*! > If > you say "Frisco" to a local, they will know you're a poser ." > > "Emperor Norton once proclaimed "Whoever after due and proper warning > shall > be heard to utter the abominable word 'Frisco,' which has no > linguistic or > other warrant, shall be deemed guilty of a High Misdemeanor." > The penalty for this crime was $25, which in that day was a whole lot, > since > even today, it's no laughing matter ." > > > > > -- > Samuel W. Hotchkiss > President, Contractor Services, LLC. > hotch at zlit.net > > Laptop History: PB 145, PB 520c, PB 3400c, 400mhz Pismo, 400mhz TiBook, > 667mhz TiBook (rev b), 1ghz TiBook > > > ---------- > Check out the Titanium email list FAQ > http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/Titanium.html > > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <Titanium-off at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > <Titanium-digest at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > Need help from a real person? Try. > <Titanium-request at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > > ---------- > $14.99 Unlimited Nationwide Mac Dialup and Mac Web Hosting from your > Mac ISP > Serious Mac Internet Solutions From NineWire! > http://macinternetaccess.com > > RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler > CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at <http://roadtools.com> > > Cyberian | Support this list when you buy at Outpost.com! > Outpost | http://www.themacintoshguy.com/outpost.shtml >