if expecting a reply, please note my signature, which contains clarification of my peculiar circumstances. b spake thus: <snip> >~of Heaven & Hell: >In Heaven music is English, beer is German, and girls are Australian. >In Hell girls are English, music is German, and beer is Australian. Written by somebody who's never tasted Coopers beer (to mention one of many) or listened to J.S.Bach. I'll leave it up to a man to comment on the girls. best, Erica Mackenzie Megalong Valley, N.S.W. AUSTRALIA N.B. Please do not be surprised or annoyed if I fail to answer your post for some time. I have a fluctuating chronic auto-immune neurological condition, and am sometimes unable to use my computer for long periods (weeks or months). Be assured that I will reply as soon as I can - if I can. Please be tolerant. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> for(i=0;i<100;i++){ printf("I must not be rude to M$Windows users. They can't help it."); [self castigate]; } NSTolerance *myTolerance = [[[NSTolerance alloc] initWithKnobsOn: @"bigKnobs"] retain]; <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>