if expecting a reply, please note my signature, which contains clarification of my peculiar circumstances. Paul Russell spake thus: <snip> >> > >Actually Latin has 6 cases, each of which has singular and plural >forms: nominative, vocative, accusative, genitive, dative and >ablative, e.g. > >bellum bella >bellum bella >bellum bella >belli bellorum >bello bellis >bello bellis ...and then there are three genders, not necessarily divided nicely into the five declensions, or related to the meanings of the words, or reliably identified by word endings. Then adjective agreement (gender, case and number - not necessarily the same endings as the nouns they agree with either, if in a different declension), the conjugations with their myriad tenses, sentence meaning influenced by word order, the subjunctive, the imperative, irregular verbs (not to mention irregular bloody nouns IMHO), unpredictable adverbs, unbelievable terseness and worst of all, Latin idiom, which, although one may 'know' every single word in a Latin sentence, can render the sentence unintelligible or at the very least, ambiguous, until one has waded through simply reams and reams of original Latin written by oringinal Romans....have I missed anything, Paul?....and I study this language out of CHOICE!!! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh.................eheu, demens sum. best, Erica Mackenzie Megalong Valley, N.S.W. AUSTRALIA N.B. Please do not be surprised or annoyed if I fail to answer your post for some time. I have a fluctuating chronic auto-immune neurological condition, and am sometimes unable to use my computer for long periods (weeks or months). Be assured that I will reply as soon as I can - if I can. Please be tolerant. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> for(i=0;i<100;i++){ printf("I must not be rude to M$Windows users. They can't help it."); [self castigate]; } NSTolerance *myTolerance = [[[NSTolerance alloc] initWithKnobsOn: @"bigKnobs"] retain]; <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>