Hello, List Mates! Thank you all for the lively discussion on all topices (especially Powerbooks and their eccentricities ;) ) I wanted to weigh in on a couple of things: a) Stealing is bad. Steve Wozniak expressed it best. b) I hope Apple sees the wisdom of Cristopher's approach and allows Applemusic.com to distribute all sorts of independent content: the means to distribution is the lifeline and the choke-point for all content producers. c) I was glad that Apple included a way to include album (remeber those?) art in your database, if you want to. I want to. d) I used to encode 192 vbr mp3s. I am now doing 128 aac, and experiencing the expected 30% size savings. On a 15 inch TiPb. e) I find the quality to be even better, but hey, my ear is only so good. f) FWIW. YMMV. __________________________ grafzepp at mac.com TiPb 1ghz 1g ram 30g hd SpDr AP 10.2.5 iPod: 20g