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[Barry Lyden]

I didn't intend on making a big deal out of this, but since you chose 
to correct me, I must answer and say that I beg to differ on using the 
"j" letter to represent the final sound in the word entourage.

I'm only guessing at your intention, but it looks like you probably 
intended to suggest that the final sound sounds like a literal "j." But 
in reality, it is softer than that - as in "zh."

But perhaps you meant to suggest that the letter "j"  is used to 
represent the softer "zh?" If you check English dictionaries, you will 
find that  the letter "j" in a dictionary transcription is used to 
represent the sound "ye" or "ya" as in the words yellow and yacht. 
Therefore, "zh" is almost always used to represent the softer sound, 
which is used at the end of the word "entourage." And "zh" is even a 
transliteration as well. There is a dictionary transcription letter 
that looks sort of like a 3 but descends below the letter line (like a 
lowercase y would) that's used to represent the "zh" sound in 
dictionaries.

My apologies to all for belaboring this point.

B


On Dec 5, 2003, at 7:27 AM, Alexandre Kapellos wrote:

>
> Le Vendredi, 5 déc 2003, à 14:23 Europe/Zurich, Barry Lyden a écrit :
>
>>
>> on - too' - razh'
>>
> on - too' - raj'
>
> btw, it means "surroundings" in french, as in friends, familly...
>
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