At 15:25 -0500 23/12/03, Seymour J. Wolfson wrote: >>>Does one exist ? >>>Does anyone have experience with OS X software >>>for making phone calls over the net? >> >>Try this: >><http://www.nikotel.com/software.htm> I >>haven't tried this; let me know what you think. >============================ >I have tried that, but you have to set up an >account with them. I could never get an account >setup. It always rejected my credit card. They >wanted me to FAX them a copy of my card, which I >will not do. If you get it to work, let me know. Seymour - THANKS ! this Nikotel software looks pretty good. Actually, the Nikotel https site was one that Safari seemed to handle OK, which is almost a first. Their procedure is that they will now POST an activation code to my credit card billing address in Switzerland ..., so that wastes at least a week. A bit annoying, as I was hoping to use this software over the holidays. The onlt thing that is pretty negative about their software is that it uses the Address Book (very well integrated) BUT it does not want the leading zeroes on the phone numbers, which of course you need in the address book, if you normally use the numbers with a (BlueTooth) mobile phone, as I do. I will write to them about that. I just cannot get my head round the thinking that went in to that part of the software concept. I will let you know if I get credit card approval. May even call you VOIP to tell you...... If this technology works, at ¢5/min, plus about ¢1.5/min for the dial-up charge, it is about 1/10 the price of a regular phone call from here to CH. This could be one of the most impressive demos of the power of a Mac, to handle this telecom/computer integration. It continues to surprise me that APPLE has not vigorously pursued this technology. They have played around with it for about a decade. I remember when I had a Hypercard stack that I made, with all my customer contact details on (primitive address book) with a Phone icon on each card that could cause the audio sound of tone dialling. I used to pick up my phone in the office, tilt the handset towards the IIfx Mac, click on the phone icon on the card, and the number was dialled out. Then digital lines came, and my experiments died. There is IMHO a huge potential for Apple to make a big impact in this converging technology, especially as they now have this Digital Lifestyle theme. What better (perhaps after Music) than this as a demo? regards from Trevor on Christmas day already in Saudi Arabia