Jeffrey K. Lew tapped out this message on 2/2/2003 5:12 AM >Holding the Ti's reset button in for more than a few seconds is one >of the ways to fry the logic board, per Apple. You're supposed to >push and release the button, then wait for 5 seconds, then attempt to >restart. Well I hope I did not do that. Another couple questions: Does the end of the plug where it goes into the back of the laptop have a light that glows when it's plugged in and getting juice? Is there another small PRAM battery that could be dead? I suppose I will find out for sure tomorrow when I take it in....