At 12:32 PM -0500 2/14/03, b wrote: >So, this morning I got a letter back from Barebones Software [makers of BBEdit]. They said that their test of the 10.2.4 update did NOT adversely effect BBEdit's being accessible through "Services". > >So, what that means is that some other application I use is causing a conflict with something in the Updater. I'm afraid it's my Ittec menu enhancement app. I sure hope not, as Ittec is easily the most useful, unobtrusive 'enhancement'-type software I've used. I've also had problems with services recently (10.2.3). All services would disappear for Carbon apps (but appear for Cocoa apps). I had to play around with my two user-installed services, Word Services and TextsoapService. I found that I could drag the service files into and out of my services folder ([Home]/Library/Services) and sometimes the problem would go away, until a logout or restart. I now have TextsoapService out of my services folder and all my [other] services appear for Carbon apps, as they should. The TextSOAP features are still available within Eudora via the Edit-->Message Plug-Ins menuitem, and within BBEdit as a floating menu, even though they are no longer in the [App name]-->Services menuitems. -- Regards, Steve (is tv wake zone?)