On Thursday, February 20, 2003, at 07:22 AM, Jesse Brown wrote: > Most use PPOE, some still use PPOA (Point to Point over ATM) I suppose > but > it's not a mainstream protocol. The manually configured IP's or > however the > IP is configured still has to ride on a transport protocol and that is > PPOE > for the majority of DSL providers (Covad, Verizon, Pacbell, SBC, etc). > There > is a petition to get rid of PPOE at > <http://www.petitiononline.com/pppoe/petition.html> but it only has 290 > signatures at present. The DSL provider I used to work for will NEVER get rid of PPOE, it allows them too many options, not the least of which is having some control over how many users are allowed to login from each account, and delivery of specific services. In addition, in their opinion, they were better able to log usage in case of problems with users. I did not care for the system, but the guys in charge LOVED it. > I have had no success in hubbing a router, DSL modem and several CPUs > and > having the PPOE connection assign a public IP to the router which then > provides NAT services over the same ENET port to one or more CPUs on > the > hub. Hmm, that sounds odd to me. The only way we could successfully get multiple computers on the same single user account was for the user to have a router which "we did not support" inline. Current iterations of the ABS now provide the ability to use PPOE and would work with the system, but previously they would not. > Whether or not you hate PPOE it is the standard for transporting IP > packets > in the majority of Digital Subscriber Line installations in the US. > > > Jesse I have to agree wholeheartedly with that last statement, current providers are not going to get rid of it without some overwhelming business reason to. Matt