Aaron, and everyone else, I too, was taken by surprise by this announcement. I had a feeling that Apple would make minor adjustments to the PB line, but not nearly as big as this (Bluetooth and AirPort was my guess). I placed my order on the 22nd of December, and last week I received a notice that it had been shipped from Ireland to Luxemburg for further packing (normal procedure). I haven't had it delivered yet. I checked out the sales and refunds policy of the Swedish AppleStore. It turns out, that I may return a computer for any reason within 7 days and get a full refund. According to the U.S. AppleStore, Americans have similar rules, but have a whole of 10 business days time to decide that they want to return they computer. Today I called AppleStore, and it took them 10 seconds to say that they would cancel the order. When I thought about it, I decided that since I still probably was going to buy the same machine (15.2'', 1GHz, SD, 1GB RAM) because of the extreme delivery time of the AlBook here in Sweden (9-11 weeks they say. I'll be surprised if that doesn't mean 3-4 months). I told the AppleStore phone receptionist that, and after talking to her supervisor she quickly modified the order and gave me a partial refund and let the order progress as normal. That's several $100's saved there! Also, remember that the AlBook is a first revision...I bet they learnt a lot from the TiBooks (AirPort placement, for one thing) - but the fact is that it is bound to have quirks. Besides, ordering a 17'' portable before feeling how huge it feels, is not that wise. I think it makes for a great desktop replacement, though! Has anyone had a chance to play with one yet!? Anyway, the purpose of this mail is to tell those who just ordered, or who ordered a few weeks ago, that there may still be a chance to either cancel the order and get a refund, or get a pretty good partial refund and keep the computer. I'm pretty sure Apple does want Good Will with their professional customers. / Regards, David Remahl (soon a happy owner of a TiBook!!!) On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 07:14 AM, ~flipper wrote: >> As a long time Unix and PC user, the discovery/release dates are not >> nearly as closely guarded. I merely voiced my disappointment, I did >> not >> saturate the list, curse, or moan, just said I was disappointed which >> is >> not unreasonable. >> >> To tell people to get over it or stop whining is a bit harsh and I >> think >> undeserved. Had you spent a better part of 3000K (which >> unfortunately I >> am not equipped to do again for some time) less than 2 weeks ago you >> might have felt the same. It is just a bitter pill to swallow. I am >> smarter and better for the experience. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Aaron > > A lot of us have empathy with you, aaron. Cyn, if I read her > correctly, was giving you the 'party line', in other words, passing > along what she was told, she went on to empathize. > > I am amazed that none of the people-in-the-knw [even the > rumor-mongers] hit this one. A lot of us were aware that Apple had > been buying tons of 17" LCDs, but everyone, as far as I know, assumed > they were set to ramp up the iMac to a 'larger' screen, and were > buying the 17s to fill future 'low-end' iMac orders. Rumors centered > on a 19" iMac. > > anyway, Apple has to keep the R&D, which they've been doing, > basically, for the entire PC industry for well over a decade, under > 'wraps'. The same things will be available on Dells, ....in a couple > years.