I have been successful at blunting the "Windows world" retoric at the college where I teach, but using the diversity argument. Education is very big on diversity, right? I turn that back on the PC crowd -- pun intended. We typically use that term in reference to ethnicity, culture, philosophy, etc. Why not computer technologies? Students should be exposed to more than Windows. Isn't it important that they have a Macintosh experience, as well? How about unix? Sure, bring it all on ...anything that will reduce Windows dominance. Open and diverse technology, where all concepts have equal opportunity, is good. It's the best argument I've found so far for supporting and using Macs in a Windows world. I teach graphic design. My classroom has 20 late-model Macs and 10 equivalent PCs. A second facility is provided for students in the degree to use in assignments. (This facility is separate from the general computer "labs" around campus, because of the expensive graphics software required in the program.) Many students use whatever computer is available. Some consciously switch back and forth to get more experience with cross-platform issues. Some feel put upon to use Macs. When those bigoted students complain about having to use Macs (because there aren't enough PCs), I give them the "lecture" about diversity. I tell them that this is their Mac experience and it will help make their education more well-rounded. I also make the point that Macs are the dominant platform in the graphics field. Sometime, somewhere, someday -- if they're going to be involved in the graphics industry as a career -- no matter how hard they try to avoid it, they will find themselves in a situation where they will have to use a Mac. That quiets all but the most un-reconstructed PC user. Michael Bigley wrote: >> And this in a school with educational Macs > > > This is the real challenge; their are vociferous groups of people going > to school boards telling them to get rid of Macs because it is a > "Windows world" (I know this sadly because my sister is part of one of > those groups). Every Mac user should be loud and persistence about the > importance of Macs in education... School boards are elected, and they > need to know that voters use Macs too. Write letters, attend school > board meetings... that could be the difference in hundreds or even > thousands of Macs. ------------------------------------------------- Ronald Woodland -- St. George, Utah 84770 ------------------------------------------------- "I long to accomplish a great and noble task, but it is my chief duty to accomplish small tasks as if they were great and noble." -- Helen Keller