[Ti] Market Share: 2.3% -- That's NOT good press
Henry Kalir
kalirhe at UMDNJ.EDU
Tue Jan 21 10:22:37 PST 2003
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Massimo Marino wrote:
>
> Henry,
>
> it is not that I do not see your point or do not agree in general but
> the market share figure looks like it is a bit biased. For one thing it
> is Apple vs all others. If we take Apple vs individual manufacturer
> Apple is the third largest manufacturer AND it is the one best doing
> financially.
> Second: the market share takes into account the sale of software for
> the platforms. The comparison there sometime amount to Windows vs Apple.
> Hybrid CDs (presenting program valid for a Windows installation and a
> Mac installation) count as Windows sale.
> Internet presence: Mac amounts to some 11+% presence of existing
> computers. From other reported figures (in this same list) Apple has
> been recently the leader presence in the whole market if you split down
> to the single manufacturer.
>
> Safari now reports 24% of the whole internet traffic. How 2.3% market
> share computing platform could provide 24% of all internet traffic?
>
> It is known that the iMac has been the best PC selling so far (crude
> sales) , the TiBook (I might be wrong) the best or next to the best.
>
> I have yet to find a single definition of this 2.3% market share
> presence of Apple (it has been reported US presence is 3% now).
> So until I get a crisp unambiguous definition of market share that does
> not provides different numbers depending on who is doing the actual
> computation I get all this business as the myth Apple bashers are
> trying to spread: "Apple is about to close". Analysts report Apple
> market share shrinking since 1984. If that was true Apple would have
> been long gone.
>
> If a single user buys 3 PC in two years (likely to happens) that counts
> as 3 PCs while instead on reality only one PC still runs.
> Corporations change the entire base of PC by the wagon: nobody says
> "well, OK, it is not that PC presence has EVER increased, you know!!!",
> it counts as increased presence of PC in the market. Those PC end up
> nonetheless into incinerator.
>
> The fact that even with all that, analysts say that market share has
> increased from 2.3% to 3% in the US tells instead that some of those PC
> users - actually a considerable part of PC users - is now adopting a
> Mac. Maybe they are keeping the PC but out of those 3 PC they would
> have bought, this time one is an Apple computer. This has never
> happened before. I would not be surprised if this little figure of
> market share will keep increasing even if pro-PC analysts will try to
> do their best to prove the contrary.
>
> In the last 2 years I have seen with my eyeballs more Windows users
> switch to the Mac than in all my professional life which has started in
> 1988.
> Actually, before these two years, I was the only one swticher (happened
> in 1997) that I personally knew.
>
> This said I agree with you: Apple should prove Windows users that they
> will not lose anything moving to the platform, actually they will gain.
> I think slowly the message is being received.
AMEN
>
> If by "using their own PC stuff JUST AS WELL" on the Mac you mean get a
> Windows program installer and install it directly on the Mac,
> presonally I do not see how this would ever be possible with the
> current architecture. Will an IBM or AMD collaboration lead to that?
> Doubt so.
> How would that work?
>
> What I am seeing it instead as a realization of what you say is in the
> Unix world. Today I was experience exactly that: we were doing some
> prototyping on a Red Hat 7.x Linux machine with some C++ programs. I
> had just to get the exact same source files, compile them on the OS X
> and get the exact same results. This is why I see more and more Macs in
> the scientific and academic community: they are just popping out as
> mushrooms.
Excellent example! Linux is expanding precisely because there's no need to
invest in any new hardware! Now, I'm NOT a programmer - but I'm sure there
are enough knowledgeable people at Apple to figure something out - either
a Mac OS running on Wintels or a Mac capable of running Mac OS *and*
Windoze and Linux, or a Mac OS capable of taking any current Windoze
Application and running it in a Mac environment...Can't be done, you say?
Well - Jules Verne envisioned a flight to the moon, wireless and tons of
other stuff without necessarily having the engineering details outlined.
Sure it would be radical, with great implications! But
I hope the one thing that would happen is that Apple would thrive.
>
> I think Apple is doing what you suggest: run on the Mac the same
> applications others are running on the PC. And Apple did whatever it
> took to do that: it killed Mac OS. OS X is not an evolution of the Mac:
> it is Unix.
> Now, I do not think we could expect to have Apple run Windows as well
> ;-)
>
> Cheers
>
> Massimo
Best,
Henry
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