Joel Hopwood typed this message on 7/17/03 4:12 AM: > Recently I've noticed a couple of things going wrong with my system: most > ntably with Safari, which is unexpectedly quitting a couple of times a day > now. FWIW I have Java turned off (as its performance is so terrible, > causing news.bbc.co.uk to sputter for ~20 secs on loading). Hmmm! And I thought I was the only one! It seems to me that my copy of Safari started crashing on a regular basis only after the Security Update 2003-07-14 was applied. Before that I could probably count the number of crashes of all versions of Safari on the fingers of one hand. I guess there is no way to un-apply the Security Update. jg