Stranger things have happened, Steve. I repair Macs at a very large university. A few months ago, we got 4 identical Quicksilver G4 towers from one of the university computer labs with identical problems; none would reliably burn CD-Rs (though all read CDs just fine). We tend to get one or two of these every once in a while-always from the public labs though, and never privately or staff-owned machines, which I find odd. So, we did our usual repair; all 4 were under warranty, so we ordered 4 new drives. After replacing them all, they all had the same or similar problems; none would burn with anywhere near 100% reliability. We called Apple and did a bunch of troubleshooting; we determined that with Verbatim media (IIRC) they burned just fine (everything else, such as Imation and Maxell failed some of the time), but this wasn't an option for us. After hassling Apple a bit, we brought in another machine from the labs that was working fine, to determine if there was anything different about it; same drive model and firmware, etc. We ended up replacing various other parts (logic board and such), and it finally came down to just replacing the combo drives again, which fixed it, oddly enough. Very strange that we'd get 4 drives all with the same problem from Service stock (which is almost always good the first time we get it in my experience). Anyway, just an anecdotal story showing that things don't always make sense, and that the engineers at Apple might be using a different procedure with good results. Steve Wozniak <steve at woz.org> writes: > It is odd that these problems are so obvious but I get told by Apple > that 80 GB drives work fine. Kynan Shook kshook at mac.com http://homepage.mac.com/kshook/index.html