At 5:28 PM -0400 2003.06.07, John Griffin wrote: >Now when I command it to logout, all applications quit, the menu bar, icons >and dock disappear and I am left with the desk picture. Nothing more happens >and my only choice is to force it to shut down. I thought that there must be >a process that is still running in the background so I leave the computer >for an hour or so, but when I come back the desk picture is still there - >not the login screen. This hasn't happened to me in a while but it used to. I would do a Force Quit (cmd-opt-esc) and force Timbuktu to Quit and then I could logout. -- Regards, Steve (is tv wake zone?)