>I was encouraged when Apple announced that Safari would be open source. It >sounded a bit like the good old days. But now I see that they too may be >doing a 180° switch and threatening anyone who circulates interim builds. I don't think they ever said it would be open source. They used an open source browser, and gave back changes. Btw, on the subject of "open" and "Apple", there is a *really* interesting last page article in the new MacWorld. Basic conclusion: Apple is open when it suits them. Quite worth reading. -- Victor Eijkhout <eijkhout at cs.utk.edu> tel: 865 974 9308 (W), 865 673 6998 (H), 865 974 8296 (F) http://www.cs.utk.edu/~eijkhout/