Hi Mike, sorry but I do not see the point. I said: you have to change card. The fact that in the PowerBook the card comes pre-installed does not change the equation: I do not need to change the motherboard: I have to change the card. The problem I think relies on the antenna: the one in the Airport card is not enough for Airport Extreme, hence no simple swap Airport card. Use an external one. I do not think - but I accept to be corrected in that - you may tell centrino - maybe - not to use its built-in the chip wireless. Does Intel states explicitly that I could have that chip functioning the same and providing the same services which are provided by this technology with an external card after I told the system to disallow its built-in device? If the Intel-ligent thing is not to have to use a wireless card at all (Airport, Lucent, etc,) then I do not see the point in all the buzz and fuss around centrino. I might be wrong but I do not see it as *just* a wireless card integration. Intel plans to build services around that wireless-chip. I do not think a regular Dell laptop would access those same services with a regular wireless card. Massimo On Thursday, March 13, 2003, at 01:37 PM, PowerBook G4 Titanium List wrote: > Message-ID: <004301c2e95c$40a4f250$6801a8c0 at castor> > From: "Mike Stanley" <macguy at guarded-inn.com> > Subject: Re: [Ti] What is this going to do to Apple, and its laptops? > Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 07:29:54 -0500 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Massimo Marino" <Massimo_Marino at lbl.gov> > To: "PowerBook G4 Titanium List" <Titanium at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 2:27 AM > Subject: Re: [Ti] What is this going to do to Apple, and its laptops? > > >> Well, there will be a difference. Apple updated its wireless line with >> Airport Extreme (802.11g). Do you need to change the laptop? nope, >> change the card and use the new standard. You are now instead a >> centrino user. In a couple of years a new standard comes out for >> wireless which allows you to get more (speed, bandwidth, whatever): do >> you change card? Nope, you have to change laptop. > > Uh, you might want to recheck that. If I want an Apple-provided > 802.11g > solution I *will* have to change laptops, as they've clearly stated > that > there will be no Airport Extreme upgrades for older TiBooks. > > So if I want 802.11g I can go with a 3rd party PC Card - which is > exactly > what you'd end up doing with one of these Centrino machines. No > difference > whatsoever.